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RE: Gatherer's Grand Collection - Jack Campin - 26-09-2016

Nicely readable typesetting as usual. I've printed them in A6 (to go in a photo album) and that's big and clear enough to play from.


RE: Gatherer's Grand Collection - Alistair - 26-09-2016

Many thank Nigel. I might have guessed that the tune would be older than the song.


RE: Gatherer's Grand Collection - Trish Santer - 27-09-2016

Re "my" version of "The Balkan Hills": I first found the tune in Nigel's "Musical Museum" book when looking for tunes to fit our last gig in St Mary's Cathedral which was on the theme of "Women of the West End". One of these pioneering ladies was Dr Elsie Inglis, who served in miltary hospitals in Serbia during WW1. The version in that book has virtually no dotted notes or snaps: I found the version I used elsewhere online, and it seemed to correspond with a couple of YouTubes of pipers playing it. There are other clips of fiddlers playing it, which, while played dotted, use fewer snaps than the pipe version


RE: Gatherer's Grand Collection - John Kelly - 27-09-2016

Now the forum is beginning to come alive again! Great to see three of the long-established regulars back posting again. Augurs well, indeed!


RE: Gatherer's Grand Collection - Jack Campin - 27-09-2016

I got curious about when Army pipers might have been in the Balkans.  This has an explanation:

http://pipingpress.com/pipe-tunes-of-ww1-part-4-the-cameron-highlanders/

The same battle front as the one in the Irish song "Salonica" (and some good Greek and Turkish songs).


RE: Gatherer's Grand Collection - Alistair - 27-09-2016

(27-09-2016, 08:24 AM)Trish Santer Wrote: Re "my" version of "The Balkan Hills": I first found the tune in Nigel's "Musical Museum" book when looking for tunes to fit our last gig in St Mary's Cathedral which was on the theme of "Women of the West End". One of these pioneering ladies was Dr Elsie Inglis, who served in miltary hospitals in Serbia during WW1. The version in that book has virtually no dotted notes or snaps: I found the version I used elsewhere online, and it seemed to correspond with a couple of YouTubes of pipers playing it. There are other clips of fiddlers playing it, which, while played dotted, use fewer snaps than the pipe version

I played that version at Sandy Bell's one Monday and George Current said that was the version he usually played,  and was most usually played in sessions, though he was aware there were others. It's not currently on the moothie group's playlist, but that may change.


RE: Gatherer's Grand Collection - Trish Santer - 27-09-2016

Well here's one pipe band clip: seems to be midway between Nigel's newer score and the one we used in terms of snaps!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpBQVZMu1Hc
And there's one from a piper at Inveraray where it is more like Nigel's older score, i.e. played "straight with no dotting or snaps.


RE: Gatherer's Grand Collection - Trish Santer - 27-09-2016

(27-09-2016, 11:36 AM)Jack Campin Wrote: I got curious about when Army pipers might have been in the Balkans.  This has an explanation:

http://pipingpress.com/pipe-tunes-of-ww1-part-4-the-cameron-highlanders/

The same battle front as the one in the Irish song "Salonica" (and some good Greek and Turkish songs).

Great info there, Jack!


RE: Gatherer's Grand Collection - Jack Campin - 27-09-2016

While I'm on a roll with this one. The Irish "Salonika" (which I learned about from hearing Jimmy Crowley sing and talk about it):

http://www.traditionalmusic.co.uk/irish-folk-music/irish%20songs/salonika.htm
http://www.mysongbook.de/msb/songs/s/salonika.html

The Turkish "Salonica Song":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1IAn0nYiIU
http://www.turkuler.com/nota/ezgi_bir_firtina_tuttu_bizi_deryaya_kardi_.html

and the other Turkish one "Beat the drums":

http://www.notalar.org/videonota/turku/CALIN_DAVULLARI_CAYDAN_ASAGIYA/RUMELI/Nihat_Kaya/1021.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9fYGraSWUA

Both of those Turkish (or possibly Greek, originally) songs are sombre pieces about death and separation.

It's intriguing that this recent Turkish music video of the first song references (in the middle) the "birdcage" constructed by the British troops:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9fYGraSWUA

I'd never have known what that meant without reading that Army history site. (It's beautifully sung by the Kurdish singer Zara, but the videography is otherwise like a bad shampoo advert).

Given the number of different nationalities involved, there are probably songs about this war zone in several other languages. It was a bad place to be, wherever you were from.


RE: Gatherer's Grand Collection - nigelgatherer - 30-10-2016

Volume 3:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1189785/Books/GGC/GGC03.pdf

In time I'm going to offer these books for sale for a nominal amount, but until I construct the pages for that, they're free.