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Lyrics required - Anne R - 15-12-2008 05:44 PM

Hi Folks

My first post! Smile

I recently acquired a book and CD set called 'Northumbrian & Border Folk Songs' by Bill Brennan. As a 'Border Lass' I was hoping to add some Border songs to my repertoire but to my disappointment the book contains only the musical score and the CD comprises purely guitar instrumentals. I've not had much luck trying to find the lyrics of the songs I'm interested in on the web. Can anyone help?

The songs I would like to learn are -
My Love is Newly Listed (The Snows)
Jimmy Allen
Sweet Hesleyside
Noble Squire Dacre
The Breamish
Waters of Tyne

By the way Nigel may I congratulate you on an absolutely fantastic website - a MUST for any folk musician or singer who is looking for info about trad music.


RE: Lyrics required - Anne R - 15-12-2008 10:26 PM

Had another wee search and have discovered that 'My Love is Newly Listed' appears also to be 'The Snow it Melts the Soonest' so I've now got that one.


RE: Lyrics required - nigelgatherer - 16-12-2008 12:52 AM

Could this be one of them? (from this web page)

Derwentwater's Farewell (Noble Squire Dacre)

Farewell to pleasant Dilston Hall,
My father's ancient seat,
A stranger now must call thee his,
Which gars my heart to greet.
Farewell each friendly, well-known face,
Mg heart has held so dear,
My tenants now must leave their lands
Or hold their lives in fear.

No more along the banks of Tyne
I'll rove in autumn gray,
No more I'll hear at early dawn
The lav'rocks wake the day,
Then fare thee well, brave Witherington,
And Forster, ever true,
Dear Shaftesbury and Errington
Receive my last adieu.

And fare thee well, George Collingwood,
Since fate has put us down,
If thou and I have lost our lives
Our King has lost his crown.
Farewell, farewell, my lady dear,
Ill, ill, thou counsel'dst me;
I never more may see the babe
That smiles upon thy knee.

And fare thee well, my bonny gray steed,
That carried me aye so free;
I wish I had been asleep in my bed
Last time I mounted thee.
The warning bell now bids me cease,
My trouble's nearly o'er,
Yon sun that rises from the sea
Shall rise on me no more.

Albeit that, here in London town
It is my fate to die,
Oh! carry me to Northumberland,
In my father's grave to lie.
There chant my solemn requiem
In Hexham's holy towers;
And let six maids from fair Tynedale
Scatter my grave with flowers.

And when the head that wears the crown
Shall be laid low like mine,
Some honest hearts may then lament
For Radcliffe's fallen line.
Farewell to pleasant Dilston Hall,
My father's ancient seat,
A stranger now must call thee his,
Which gars my heart to greet.


RE: Lyrics required - nigelgatherer - 16-12-2008 12:57 AM

I have heard the others only as tunes. I'll be happy to be proved wrong, but are you sure there are lyrics to these tunes?

And thanks, Anne, for your kind words, and a warm welcome to the forum. Still play your mandolin?


RE: Lyrics required - Anne R - 16-12-2008 09:46 AM

(16-12-2008 12:57 AM)nigelgatherer Wrote:  I have heard the others only as tunes. I'll be happy to be proved wrong, but are you sure there are lyrics to these tunes?

And thanks, Anne, for your kind words, and a warm welcome to the forum. Still play your mandolin?


Thanks very much for the lyrics Nigel. That's 2 of them now! I think you may well be right about the others being tunes in spite of the book title though the very sparse notes say that 'Waters of Tyne' is a 'much loved Northumbrian song'! The notes for 'Jimmy Allen' say he was 'a virtuoso Northumbrian piper who deserted from the army 9 times, was arrested 13 times and was a bigamist 3 times' - naughty old Jimmy!

I still have the occasional wee shot at my other half's first mandolin 'Ozzie'. My old Italian roundback is a bit too fragile to play now and I wouldn't dare touch his beloved Eastman!


RE: Lyrics required - nigelgatherer - 16-12-2008 09:49 AM

From Derwentwater's Farewell :

"Farewell to pleasant Dilston Hall,
My father's ancient seat..."

My dad's 84, but you don't get me singing odes to his ancient seat. ;-)


RE: Lyrics required - nigelgatherer - 16-12-2008 09:53 AM

Quite right, quite right. I have this sung by the Ian Campbell Folk Group ("This Is the Ian Campbell Folk Group! (Transatlantic TRA 110, 1963))

Waters of Tyne

I cannot get tae my love if I would dee,
For the waters of Tyne run between him and me;
And here I maun stand wi a tear in my ee
All sighin and sobbin, my true love to see.

Oh where is the boatman, my bonny hinney,
Oh where is the boatman, go bring him to me;
For to ferry me over the Tyne to my honey,
Or speed him across the rough waters to me.

Oh bring me a boatman, I'll gie all my money,
And you for your trouble rewarded shall be;
If you'll carry me over the Tyne to my honey,
And I will remember the boatman and thee

I cannot get tae my love if I would dee,
For the waters of Tyne run between him and me;
And here I maun stand wi a tear in my ee,
All sighin' and sobbin', my true love to see.


RE: Lyrics required - Anne R - 16-12-2008 11:07 AM

Thanks once again Nigel. I'm beginning to suspect that 'Northumbrian & Border' means 'the other side' of the Border and not 'Both Sides the Tweed' as none of the songs I've found lyrics for so far from this book seem to be from the Scottish Borders as I had hoped. I'm trying to find some that are less well known. Perhaps I'll come along to Bennet's one night and treat you to the proper 'unALPified' version of 'Teribus' with all of its 24 verses as in the 'Hawick Common Riding Songbook' - just joking!

By the way 'Leather Master' protection care is quite good for ancient seats!


RE: Lyrics required - John Kilpatrick - 16-12-2008 02:32 PM

Hi Anne,

I just found a YouTube clip of a song called The Waters of Tyne http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV0J4zS6hec

John

eta... and here're lyrics from http://mysongbook.de/msb/songs/w/watersof.html

I cannae get to my love if I would dee
The waters of Tyne run between him and me
And here I mun stand with a tear in my e'e
Baith sighing and sickly my sweetheart to see

Oh where is the boatman, my bonnie hinny
Oh where is the boatman - oh bring him to me
To ferry me o'er the Tyne to my honey
And I will remember the boatman and thee

Oh bring me a boatman, I'll gi'e all my money
And you for your trouble rewarded shall be
To ferry me o'er the Tyne to my honey
Or scull him across the rough river to me

(as sung by The Ian Campbell Folk Group)


RE: Lyrics required - Anne R - 16-12-2008 03:06 PM

That's great John, very helpful indeed. Smile


RE: Lyrics required - Trish Santer - 07-01-2009 02:24 AM

Hi Anne,
I've recently bought a CD by Realtime (includes Judy Dinning and Kenny Speirs) on which Judy does "Waters of Tyne" beautifully: will let you have a listen.
"My love is newly listed, and he wears the white (blue) cockade" - depending which version you listen to: try Show of Hands (from Devon!) or the Waterson/Carthy clan for that! I think the Snows song is a different one, and I myself got confused between "When the Snows of winter Fall" (Graeme Miles) and the "The Snows that fall the Soonest", notably recorded by Anne Briggs.


RE: Lyrics required - Anne R - 07-01-2009 10:53 PM

Ta Trish, I'll let you see the book/CD set sometime and you can see what you think. By the way I'd love to learn the Graeme Miles song.


RE: Lyrics supplied - andrew burnside - 11-01-2009 02:23 PM

Well, I don't now if the following is quite was was being invited, but it's offered as an antidote - which we may well be needing - if 2009 and the "Homecoming" has us all sliding into a warm bath of Caledonian nostalgia and sentimental self-satisfaction

It's to the tune, Flower of Scotland, and is a work in progress!

The Bank of Scotland

O Bank of Scotland
When shall we see your like again
That dealt and lied for
Your chief executive men
And worked against us
Proud Alec’s army
And left us homeless
In debt again

High Street doors close now
And businesses lie dark and still
Oer land that’s left poor now
By those who buy and sell
And worked against us
Proud Alec’s army
And left us jobless
On dole again

Those days are passed now
And in the past they must remain
But we can get wise now
And not be beggered again
That put our trust in
Self-serving bankers
That left us homeless
In debt again


RE: Lyrics required - Jack Campin - 25-05-2009 01:05 PM

Anne, what you want is Walter Elliot's "The New Minstrelsy of the Scottish Border" (Deerpark Press, 2006). Any bookshop in the Borders should have it.


RE: Lyrics required - Anne R - 25-05-2009 01:51 PM

(25-05-2009 01:05 PM)Jack Campin Wrote:  Anne, what you want is Walter Elliot's "The New Minstrelsy of the Scottish Border" (Deerpark Press, 2006). Any bookshop in the Borders should have it.



Ta Jack. I've been meaning to get a copy for a while.